Above are the pieces by Betony Coons that she specifically makes reference to on this episode.

Tim and Betony Coons are a husband and wife team who have collaborated to build a unique project together called Giants & Pilgrims: A Marriage of Art and Music. Josh drove out to their home and art studio in Greeley, Colorado to speak with them about what the project is, how it began, their desires behind it, and how they go about integrating life themes with artwork and music. Because this is Ink & Echo, we also dive into how having children can change one's view of mortality, the darker aspects of some of Betony's work in particular and where Tim and Betony individually find inspiration and life to fuel them as artists and parents. Prior to the interview portion, Andy and Josh discuss a few new things surrounding Andy's next album, how busy-ness has been beneficial to Andy in the past week, Josh tells an airport layover story in which he learned a lot more about the Burning Man Festival, and we close the show with a curious email Andy received in response to his music.

See and hear Tim and Betony's collaborative art and music at 

Giants & Pilgrim's music can be purchased at

Prints of Betony's artwork can be purchased at graysparrow Etsy shop.

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Our theme music is "Gold" by Black Map, used by permission.